Comments on: Two Things that Bother me about Multi Level Marketing and Ionized Water. http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/ Everything you wanted to know (and not know) about water. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:45:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rob http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1464 rob Fri, 07 May 2010 01:28:04 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1464 Hi Alexandra: I hope you enjoy the free advertising here. I don't know what else to say. Hi Alexandra:

I hope you enjoy the free advertising here. I don’t know what else to say.

]]> By: Alexandra Cooper http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1463 Alexandra Cooper Fri, 07 May 2010 00:34:55 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1463 i have tried selling different products from Multi Level Marketing and i can earn a decent amount of money from them.-,, i have tried selling different products from Multi Level Marketing and i can earn a decent amount of money from them.-,,

]]> By: Hana Dolgin http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1162 Hana Dolgin Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:29:08 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1162 It would have been better had you not posted your opinion about the "MLM" company whose machine costs about $4000, because a lot of people know which company that is, so you have written against a certain well known company, though you claim to be unbiased. We all know that every company marks up their products, otherwise they wouldn't be able to pay all the people involved in research, production, marketing, advertising, warehousing, technical support, etc., so my conclusion is their costs are a heck of a lot cheaper then the price they charge! No one sells a product at cost and stays in business! That is naive! It would have been better had you not posted your opinion about the “MLM” company whose machine costs about $4000, because a lot of people know which company that is, so you have written against a certain well known company, though you claim to be unbiased. We all know that every company marks up their products, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to pay all the people involved in research, production, marketing, advertising, warehousing, technical support, etc., so my conclusion is their costs are a heck of a lot cheaper then the price they charge! No one sells a product at cost and stays in business! That is naive!

]]> By: Ray http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1139 Ray Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:21:59 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1139 I had completed 1 year of research on the ionizer machines, simply for my own comfort level, after talking to hundreds of users and comparison reports, I found the company that uses the inhancer to achieve the lower levels of acid water and the high levels alkaline water, provided the best water for your body. I found the companies trying to achieve these types of waters, use filters that become clogged with bacteria and they have no way to monitor this process. This water has been used for 35 years in Japan, and the machine is only machines recognized by the Japanese Ministry of Health as the only machines used in the hospitals in Japan. Like all good products, the are companies that will try to copy the originals with knock- off machines built with inferior parts to sell at a cheaper price. The company I chose provides the best training and support for the health of my family. I have always found you get what you pay for. I had completed 1 year of research on the ionizer machines, simply for my own comfort level, after talking to hundreds of users and comparison reports, I found the company that uses the inhancer to achieve the lower levels of acid water and the high levels alkaline water, provided the best water for your body. I found the companies trying to achieve these types of waters, use filters that become clogged with bacteria and they have no way to monitor this process. This water has been used for 35 years in Japan, and the machine is only machines recognized by the Japanese Ministry of Health as the only machines used in the hospitals in Japan. Like all good products, the are companies that will try to copy the originals with knock- off machines built with inferior parts to sell at a cheaper price. The company I chose provides the best training and support for the health of my family. I have always found you get what you pay for.

]]> By: rob http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1138 rob Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:41:30 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1138 Hi Tammy: There are many good brands in the market place. The brand that you purchase should suit your needs and budget. Based upon my testing, there is no "best" brand out there that does everything. One brand produces the best acidic water for antiseptic cleaning. Another brand works the best in soft water condtions because of the contents of its filter. Another brand has the best under counter unit. Still another brand produces the highest alkaline pH output which can be used for emulsifying the water, which will allow the user to remove the pesticides from fruit and vegetables. There are a wide selection of lower cost brands that will produce healthy drinking water with useful pH and ORP values. I don't endorse any brands or companies on this forum. It is important to me that I actually remain unbiased, as opposed to appearing to be unbiased but having an agenda like all of the review sites. If you contact me directly at contact@waterfy.com, I would be happy to share my research with you so that you can choose the right machine for your needs. Rob Hi Tammy:

There are many good brands in the market place. The brand that you purchase should suit your needs and budget. Based upon my testing, there is no “best” brand out there that does everything.

One brand produces the best acidic water for antiseptic cleaning. Another brand works the best in soft water condtions because of the contents of its filter. Another brand has the best under counter unit. Still another brand produces the highest alkaline pH output which can be used for emulsifying the water, which will allow the user to remove the pesticides from fruit and vegetables. There are a wide selection of lower cost brands that will produce healthy drinking water with useful pH and ORP values.

I don’t endorse any brands or companies on this forum. It is important to me that I actually remain unbiased, as opposed to appearing to be unbiased but having an agenda like all of the review sites.

If you contact me directly at contact@waterfy.com, I would be happy to share my research with you so that you can choose the right machine for your needs.

Rob

]]> By: Alfonso http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1133 Alfonso Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:23:39 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1133 To the author of this blog: well done. Point well made. To the author of this blog: well done. Point well made.

]]> By: Tammy bronk http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1131 Tammy bronk Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:44:16 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1131 Will you be able to give me a non-mlm reputable supplier name. I very much need a reputable alkaline ionized water machine. I am not associated with a business nor do I sell anything. Thank you so much. Will you be able to give me a non-mlm reputable supplier name. I very much need a reputable alkaline ionized water machine. I am not associated with a business nor do I sell anything. Thank you so much.

]]> By: Marilyn Abraham http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-1016 Marilyn Abraham Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:57:24 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-1016 I agree with your response Marilyn. You have to look at why this person would write something like this. ***** is the best Ionizer on the market. Everyone that drinks our water through the ****** machine see results and things start changing. Hi Marilyn: I deleted the mention of the brand name as this site will never be about promoting brands or companies. It is careless and untrue claims like the ones that you have made, that provide a perfect example of why I don't like MLM companies participating in this industry. You have no data to back up the claims that you have made. I have tested your machine and others in various conditions. While your machine is a good machine, there are better machines out there, and they sell at a fraction of the price. Those that have knowledge of the water have an important role to play in sharing the information with others. It is great that you are excited about the benefits that water ionizers provide. I'm sure everyone would love to hear about your personal story, or stories about people that you know. The stories would be helpful, but the sales pitch is not. I agree with your response Marilyn. You have to look at why this person would write something like this. ***** is the best Ionizer on the market. Everyone that drinks our water through the ****** machine see results and things start changing.

Hi Marilyn:

I deleted the mention of the brand name as this site will never be about promoting brands or companies.

It is careless and untrue claims like the ones that you have made, that provide a perfect example of why I don’t like MLM companies participating in this industry. You have no data to back up the claims that you have made. I have tested your machine and others in various conditions. While your machine is a good machine, there are better machines out there, and they sell at a fraction of the price.

Those that have knowledge of the water have an important role to play in sharing the information with others. It is great that you are excited about the benefits that water ionizers provide. I’m sure everyone would love to hear about your personal story, or stories about people that you know. The stories would be helpful, but the sales pitch is not.

]]> By: Marilyn Robertson http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-906 Marilyn Robertson Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:15:03 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-906 I respect your "opinion" about other products compared to a MLM product. Do you know the commissions paid to dealers of those other products? Your reference to MLM is nebulous. You state "newbies" are scary - everyone is a newbie at some point - This industry is fairly new to the U.S. Also, we have found that a owner of this equipment can, without knowing all the technical terms, just share his/her water with a friend and find that friend gets results and wants to own a unit. The water does the work - not the person who introduced it. Everyone can access the training on live, nationwide calls. I respect your “opinion” about other products compared to a MLM product. Do you know the commissions paid to dealers of those other products? Your reference to MLM is nebulous. You state “newbies” are scary – everyone is a newbie at some point – This industry is fairly new to the U.S. Also, we have found that a owner of this equipment can, without knowing all the technical terms, just share his/her water with a friend and find that friend gets results and wants to own a unit. The water does the work – not the person who introduced it. Everyone can access the training on live, nationwide calls.

]]> By: KangenWaterMagic http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/where-is-the-magic-in-enagic/comment-page-1/#comment-904 KangenWaterMagic Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:20:34 +0000 http://www.waterfyi.com/?p=169#comment-904 I think you've done a very nice job on your blog, but just wanted to help you understand a couple of things, as I am certain you are referring to the xxxxxx and their business model. xxxxxx is NOT a MLM in the traditional sense of the word. There are no monthly auto ships, no annual anything. You simply buy a unit and that is the end of it, unless you care to tell friends and family or even work it as a business. Those of us that are passionate enough about sharing the xxxxxx do so and as a thank you the company rewards us. It's not an easy thing to try and explain all that is involved with xxxxxx to the general public. Most people assume water is just wet and all water is basically the same. You and I know this is not the case. Every major business that sells a product has a typical 50-70% mark up for advertising, and marketing. That is how they pay the people that sell the products, be they be corp. reps, or the end Sales person dealing directly with the public and end user. xxxxxx does not spend the dollars in the advertising on TV, radio, print. Instead they take those same 50-70% profit dollars and pay people like me that are down in the trenches doing the work. If you'd like more information on that aspect I'll be happy to supply it to you. I hope this helps clear up some of your confusion about the cost, and I'd be happy to send you any information that you might be interested in. Have a Water full day! I think you’ve done a very nice job on your blog, but just wanted to help you understand a couple of things, as I am certain you are referring to the xxxxxx and their business model.
xxxxxx is NOT a MLM in the traditional sense of the word. There are no monthly auto ships, no annual anything. You simply buy a unit and that is the end of it, unless you care to tell friends and family or even work it as a business.
Those of us that are passionate enough about sharing the xxxxxx do so and as a thank you the company rewards us. It’s not an easy thing to try and explain all that is involved with xxxxxx to the general public. Most people assume water is just wet and all water is basically the same. You and I know this is not the case.
Every major business that sells a product has a typical 50-70% mark up for advertising, and marketing.
That is how they pay the people that sell the products, be they be corp. reps, or the end Sales person dealing directly with the public and end user. xxxxxx does not spend the dollars in the advertising on TV, radio, print. Instead they take those same 50-70% profit dollars and pay people like me that are down in the trenches doing the work.
If you’d like more information on that aspect I’ll be happy to supply it to you.
I hope this helps clear up some of your confusion about the cost, and I’d be happy to send you any information that you might be interested in.
Have a Water full day!

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