Ionizersreviewed.com… a review of the review site

In: Water Ionizers

11 Mar 2010

It came to my attention today that one of the water ionizer review sites ”ionizersreviewed.com” has chosen a second line of water ionizers  for their ”best value” catagory.   This represents a major step in the right direction for a review site.  The widely promoted website has provided reviews of various water ionizers for the past couple of years.  The site has always claimed to provide independent advice and testing of different brands, but on closer inspection, the site has never been independent at all.  It has always favoured one specific brand.   Of course, other companies caught on to the game and created their own ”independent” sites that also direct you to the brand that they want you to choose.   It is all part of a sophisticated and very effective marketing effort.  

All of the review sites use the Enagic SD501 as their whipping boy in an effort to make their product look like the obvious machine of choice.  While they admit that the SD501 is a good machine, which it is, they all point out that the Enagic machine is double the price of their machines because of their Multi Level Marketing payout structure, which is true.  The various companies attack Enagic in an attempt to steal market share from Enagic, which is an organization that has been almost solely responsible for building awareness of the incredible benefits of ionized water.  It would be nice if the other companies focused on building awareness of the water instead of trying to steal from the efforts of others.

Just when you think you have heard enough, it gets worse.   While all the companies that operate the review sites appear to be at war with each other, you will soon discover they all seem to work together in that they only compare their products with the products of the other review sites.  As a result, anyone that spends time on the internet searching for water ionizers comes away with the clear impression that there are basically only three companies to choose from (unless you are willing to pay double the money for an Enagic machine so that you can sell the overpriced units to family and friends).   The truth of the matter is that there are hundreds of different brands available in the world to choose from, of which several have built solid track records that make them worthy contenders.   The problem is that the public never gets to know the names of the other good companies, because they haven’t built a sophisticated marketing system in North America yet, and they are not part of the “club”.

Now comes the interesting new twist from ”ionizersreviewed.com”  The site features a “best of the best” catagory that predictably features the same product that it has featured for years.  However,  the new “best value” catagory features a differnt brand altogether, which is a refreshing development.  The site has declared the IonQuench 8080, which is made by the highly respected EOS manufacturing company in Korea, as a fantastic machine that represents the best value in the industry.  EOS has been producing great machines for years for a company called KYK.  Unfortunately, KYK has never been able to break into the ”club”, so it carved its niche in the industry by selling its products for significantly less money than the leading players in the industry.  The fact that the IonQuench 8080 is virtually identical to the KYK Genesis 30000 other than a different face plate is not important.  What is important is that a well respected manufacturer and one of its excellent machines is now getting recognized after fighting a long uphill battle for years.  

I don’t know who is responsible for changing the philosophy at ionizersreviewed, but it is a very positive development.  The website appears to finally be moving towards actually being independent, which is good news for consumers.  We all benefit from learning about another quality company.  Hopefully, the price of the unit will not increase with its new found recognition.  Introductory sale prices never last long, but even the advertised retail price is a move in the rigth direction towards lower prices.  Good work ionizersreviewed.com

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Stanley

April 15th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

The reviews tend to be self-serving.

Our non-MLM company produces units that are designed and made in Japan and have been around since 1994. Our units sell for considerably less money than the MLM machines and produce good results. We intend to provide facts on our new website to point out the fallacies promoted by the MLM companies.

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rob

April 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

Hi Stanley:

Thanks for the comments.

I have tested numerous types of machines in the last couple of years. They all work! I have also found that different machines produce different results under different source water conditions, and there is no such thing as the best machine.

Your post was very self promoting, so I made a few changes to take the sales pitch out of your comments.

If you want to send me one of your machines, I will be happy to test it, and provide my feedback. I plan to start doing video blogs in the near future where I will indepenedently test any machine that is sent to me for testing. When I say independently test machines, I mean it. I don’t have any incentive to promote or bash any machine, so the video blogs will be actually present unbiased results.

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Robert

May 10th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

I am really enjoying your site, specifically because you don’t seem to be promoting anything other than water. (Unless you are part of some new wave more sneaky “independent” promotion site) At the same time I’m still hesitant to commit and make a purchase. Since you don’t promote a specific brand or manufacturer, have you come across a site with seemingly independent comparison charts of the brands and features?

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rob Reply:

Hi Robert:

I get a lot of messages similar to yours. People want to know what machine to buy. I can’t answer that question without knowing some background information, such as the condition of the source water and the person’s needs in terms of what they want to use the water for, and their budget.

I’m very skeptical about review sites, because all the ones I have seen are bought and paid for by a company pushing their product. Your best bet is to speak to a company that sells various brands of machines, but even that isn’t foolproof, as many companies pretend to sell various brands but actually sell only one type of machine. You also have to be careful not to get caught by companies that employ salespeople who don’t know what they are talking about. Very few people in the industry actually take time to find out which machine will be best suited to the customer.

If you send me an email with your telephone number, I will call you and ask the questions that need to be asked to determine which machine is best suited to your needs. At that point, you can search the internet for the best deal on that particular machine.

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Robert

May 11th, 2010 at 8:03 am

Rob – I apologize for not replying with-in the thread, but the [Reply] link isn’t working for me so I had to make a new post. Thanks for taking the time to call and share some more information. I really appreciate it.

Take care,
Robert

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rob Reply:

Hi Robert:

I enjoyed speaking with you and it was a pleasure to help.

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Kim

July 29th, 2010 at 6:28 am

We want to buy a good Ionizer at a fair price… like everyone else I assume. We live in the city (St. Thomas, ON) We have chlorinated water and although it would be nice to have a unit that did the entire house. For economic reasons we thought a counter top unit would be best. Can you help us to pick the right one for our situation. I’ve been researching off and on for a year now. Still undecided. So many claims that ‘we are the best’… Thank you.

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rob Reply:

Hi Kim:

Thanks for the commenting on the blog. I apologize for for taking a couple of days to get back to you, as I normally try to respond to comments asap. The weather is awesome in Muskoka, the kids have been up to visit this week, and I have just been too busy living to work on the blog.

I spent a couple of years at the Ivey School of Business in London a long long long time ago. Never made it to St. Thomas, but I know it is close by.

Counter top units are less expensive and equally effective to under counter units. The under counter units have the advantage of minimizing the need for counter space and the unit itself is out of site. The under counter units should be only slightly higher in cost than the above counter units, but the marketing people in the industry think they should sell for about a $500 premium. I don’t get it, but my vote doesn’t count.

I understand your confusion about all the claims of “we are the best”. Wouldn’t it be nice if someone would just say: “we have a really good product at a fair price and we will do our best to help make your experience with water ionizers a good one”. I know, too much exposure to sun for me!

reasonable price great unit at a great price and we will give you great service…and we would greatful for your business”
I would be happy to provide you with whatever information I have. You can reach me by emailing me directly or finding me on Skype at: robthewaterguy.

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Gavin Dickinson

September 10th, 2010 at 12:23 pm

ionizersreviewed is tyent, you know this, yes?

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rob Reply:

Hi Gavin:

Thanks for the comments….all of them. I thought I talk alot….just kidding. Your contribution is appreciated.

I have bunched all 5 of your comments into 1.

You are completely correct about the statements you have made about the review sites. Unfortunately, I have to include the Jupiter review site in the group because the results don’t match the hundreds of comparison tests that I have run. The good thing about the Jupiter review site is that at least the site tells the public that it is a Jupiter production.

The upiter/Ionways Biostone filter is excellent. In fact, I would say it is the best single filter in the industry. I would dispute the claims that Jupiter makes about removing so many things from the water. I have spent a lot of time studying fluoride, chloramines, THMs, VOCs etc. I would have to personally witness the testing procedure to test the before and after results from both a new and partially used and nearly fully used filter before I would believe the claims.

I look forward to seeing the new Jupiter filtrations system. Is it a nano based system sililar to what Chanson offers?

Congratulations on all the hard work you have done in helping building awareness of the industry. I admire your passion and effort. We need more people like you in the industry. If I can ever help you and your efforts in any way, let me know, as I would be happy to contribute.

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