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		<title>Ten Things You Should Know About Water Ionizers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slowly but surely, people are discovering the benefits of drinking alkaline ionized water.   Most of us take our health for granted until something goes wrong, so most inquiries about the water come from people who are trying to “fix” something.  I suspect it will remain that way for years to come, but my hope is [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.waterfyi.com/ionized-water/ten-things-you-should-know-about-water-ionizers/" ><img src="http://www.waterfyi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/10-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="10" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-633" /></a>Slowly but surely, people are discovering the benefits of drinking alkaline ionized water.   Most of us take our health for granted until something goes wrong, so most inquiries about the water come from people who are trying to “fix” something.  I suspect it will remain that way for years to come, but my hope is that eventually people will learn to take care of their health before they have problems.  Proper maintenance is always a superior solution to repair.</p>
<p>If you are investigating water ionizers on the internet, there is a good chance you are getting confused.  The confusion is understandable.  While every website tells you that the machines are great, they also try to influence your buying decision by focusing on the attributes of their particular machine.</p>
<p>Here is a list of things I think you should know about water ionizers before you consider buying a machine:</p>
<p>1)      All water ionizers work.  They use a simple process called electrolysis to separate tap or bottled water into two separate streams of water.  One stream is rich in OH- (hydroxyl ions)  which is for drinking, and the other is rich in H+ (Hydrogen ions) which is for external use on the skin or for disinfecting germs in its strongest form</p>
<p>2)      There is no such thing as the “best” water ionizer.  Different machines perform differently in different water conditions.  Before buying, you should focus on your source water conditions, what you want to use the water for (as they do more than simply improve your health), and your budget</p>
<p>3)      The high priced Multi Level Marketing machines are not superior, and in many cases are inferior to many lower priced brands</p>
<p>4)      Your source water conditions, the speed of the flow of the water through the machine, and the amount of power run through the machine are the primary factors affecting the performance of the machine.  Don’t be mislead by the “bells and whistles” offered by various brands attempting to entice you.</p>
<p>5)      Water ionizers are designed to ionize water.  They are not designed to work as filtration systems other than for removing chlorine.  While the filters of some brands offer somewhat better filtration, it is important to learn what is in your water supply and install a pre-filtration system.  It makes no sense to spend thousands of dollars on a water ionizer and not spend a couple of hundred dollars to remove harmful contaminants from your water.</p>
<p>6)      The “independent” review sites are not independent at all.  They are sophisticated marketing tools designed to lead you towards purchasing a specific brand of water ionizer.</p>
<p>7)      According to the engineers that I met in Korea, no machine for residential use needs to have more than 300 Watts of power.  In fact, adding more power is likely detrimental as it will act to corrode the platinum coating on the titanium plates.  More is not better.</p>
<p>8)      The engineers confirmed our findings that 7 plates provide up to 20% better results than 5 plates, but only under <span style="text-decoration: underline;">hard</span> source water conditions.  In soft and medium water, there is very little difference.  However, 9 plates offer absolutely nothing more in terms of performance over 7 plate machines and can be viewed as a gimmick.  More is not better.</p>
<p>9)      In regards to pH levels, there is somewhat of a consensus among the scientists and engineers that I have spoken to.  It is recommended to start drinking alkaline water for about a week at a level of 8.0 to 8.5 so your body can detoxify slowly.  Starting with water that has higher pH levels will not harm you, but you are more likely to experience headaches, mild flu-like symptoms, and possibly diarrhea.  Once your body has adjusted to detoxifying, most healthy adults should drink water in a pH range of 9.0 to 10.0 </p>
<p>10)  The opinions among the scientists in regards to the effectiveness and level of ORP for drinking water are much more divergent.  Some medical doctors and scientists who have never tested the water believe that the acidic level of the stomach immediately neutralizes the negative ORP values, thereby rendering the effect of the ORP as worthless.   Others scientists claim that the antioxidant values of the negatively charged ions are life changing and can lead to sustainable good health.   </p>
<p>Ionized water, alcohol, and sugar, are the only known substances that pass immediately through the stomach.  You can prove this to yourself with a simple test.  Drink 3 sixteen ounce glasses of tap or bottled water within a five minute period.  You will feel bloated for hours.  However, it you drink 3 sixteen ounce glasses of ionized water in the same five minute period, you won’t feel bloated at all.  Based upon this test and the fact that ionized water helped me get rid of severe arthritis and acid reflux while several forms of pharmaceutical drugs failed, my vote goes to the beneficial effects of negatively charged water.</p>
<p>The scientists that do believe in the beneficial antioxidant properties of negatively charged water have varying opinions in regards to what level of negative ORP should be consumed.  The scientists from Japan and Korea who have been around working on the water for 25 years seem to be of the opinion that you should drink water with a negative ORP level of -10 to -15.  Others claim that you should drink water that has a negative ORP of -180 to -200, as that is the value of the juice of a live orange on a tree.   There does seem to be some consensus that drinking water should not have an ORP of greater than -400.  However, Dr. Robert Young has indicated that he has had success with using -800 ORP for cancer patients, but that of course is a more extreme measure.</p>


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		<title>Marketing hype in the water ionizer industry</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It drives me crazy when I review water ionizer websites that claim that their machines are far superior to their competitor’s machines. They also seem to revel in bashing the competition. Why would anyone want to do this? All it does is confuse potential buyers and make the company look really stupid. The pharmaceutical industry [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-148" title="scam" src="http://www.waterfy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/scam.jpg" alt="scam" width="250" height="175" />It drives me crazy when I review water ionizer websites that claim that their machines are far superior to their competitor’s machines. They also seem to revel in bashing the competition. Why would anyone want to do this? All it does is confuse potential buyers and make the company look really stupid. The pharmaceutical industry must just be sitting back and chuckling at the ridiculous behavior of the participants in the water ionizer industry.</p>
<p>Bashing other companies or products in order to make your product look good by comparison is pathetic. The public is looking for information and the truth, not a sales pitch. Can you imagine GM using its marketing dollars to tell people not to buy a Ford or Chrysler because they make lousy cars? I think it was about 15 to 20 years ago that Coke and Pepsi went through a short period of bashing each other. The strategy turned the public off and people started looking to alternatives. The management teams at both Coke and Pepsi figured out very quickly that people don’t like that type of approach. I hope that the water ionizer companies learn the lesson quickly, so that they can start to focus on the important issues. I believe that everyone in the health care industry should be morally obligated to become as well informed as possible, as customers are putting their trust in their hands.</p>
<p>Now it’s time to take an honest look at what it takes to produce the best results from a water ionizer machine. I will start by saying that you can ignore most of the marketing hype that you see on the internet. While some sites provide excellent information, most focus their efforts on selling you their product. Marketing people emphasize the virtues of the products, and minimize the factors that are lacking in their machines.</p>
<p>Despite all the flashy proclamations on the internet, there are two key elements to producing the best results for ionized water. Marketing companies illustrate other virtues, but they are secondary factors in producing good results. The primary factors are:</p>
<p>1) The amount of electrolysis that actually occurs in the ionizing chamber of a water ionizer.<br />
2) Dealing with the factors presented by the source water.</p>
<p>Dealing with issue number one (the time that water is exposed to the ionizer plates) is easy. It is simple physics to understand that the more electrolysis that takes place, the better the results in terms of producing pH and ORP. So, how do the machines achieve maximum electrolysis? The ionizer companies go on and on about the plate size, the material the plates are made of, solid plates vs. mesh plates vs. slotted plates, and power. The simple fact is that the more exposure to the surface area of the plates, the more electrolysis takes place.</p>
<p>More surface area can be achieved in three ways… more plates, bigger plates, and introducing slots in the plates. More plates cost more and therefore push the price up. Bigger plates make the machines bigger and therefore make the appearance of the machine on your counter more conspicuous. Slotted plates add 25% more surface area (according to the physicists) without changing the size or number of the plates. So, it seems that slotted plates are a “no-brainer” as it doesn’t affect cost or size. You will see the companies that don’t have slotted plates present an argument about clogging, but it is nonsense. Putting slots in plates is a positive thing and it doesn’t increase the cost, so all the companies should be doing it. In every case, if you slow the flow of the water flow over the plates down, the results will improve, because more contact with the plates means more electrolysis. The review sites use water flow rates as one of the tricks to make their machines look like they produce the best results.</p>
<p>The manufacturers have been engaging in a battle of the number of plates for the past year. I believe that the primary reason for this strategy has been to combat the claims of one of the Multi Level Marketing companies that their machine was better because it had more plates. It is obvious that more plates are better, but how much is enough? I personally wasn’t convinced that moving from 5 plates to 7 plates would actually make a significant difference in performance, as I assumed it was just more marketing hype that would allow companies to raise their prices. However, when testing 5 plate versus 7 plate machines, the 7 plate machines do in fact produce better results under soft water or hard water conditions. If your source water is ideal (pH level of 7.1 to 7.3 and moderate hardness 80 to 140 parts per million), then you can achieve reasonably good results with a 5 plate machine.</p>
<p>Choosing a machine for its plate size becomes a personal issue. Bigger plates are better, but it makes the units bigger and more cumbersome. A bigger unit on the counter bothers some people, but not others. If a machine has small plates, the shortfall can be overcome somewhat by a machine that has more power. Personally, I can’t wait until the industry provides a wide array of under the counter “UTC” units that are priced more reasonably than what is available at this time. UTC units will allow for outstanding output from machines without worrying about the size, because the machine will be hidden away.</p>
<p>Now we need to deal with the more tricky factors, the source water. Canada and the USA have many different source water issues. We have to deal with great variations in the amount of hardness in the water, and we also have to deal with other water issues such as impurities. In cities, most people have to deal with chlorine and fluoride, which are negative factors, as well as concerns about the contents of older pipes. Rural areas don’t have to deal with chlorine and fluoride, but they typically have to deal with sediment in the water, and sometimes nasty things like nitrates (on farms) or heavy metals.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the water ionizer companies have basically ignored the various issues and focused on selling their units. It is a typical case of greed, where profits are more important than safety. I believe that they can do a much better job. The only issue that the companies have addressed at all is the issue of soft water. Soft water is a problem for water ionizers because soft water contains very few minerals, and the ionizer requires minerals to work.</p>
<p>There are two different strategies that the various companies have chosen to deal with soft water. The old fashioned way to deal with a shortage of minerals in the water is with a calcium port, and the two oldest ionizer companies use this method. Companies that use this system have their customers purchase calcium and inject it into the machine. This system is effective, but I personally don’t care for it, because the amounts injected are not metered out in any systematic and accountable way, and the cost is both high and unnecessary. In my opinion, the better way to deal with soft water is to use filters that slowly introduce minerals into the water as the water moves through the filters. This system makes a lot more sense on an intuitive level, and there are no additional costs. While I would like to say that the manufacturers have perfected this system, it appears that they still have some work to do. Fortunately, one company in particular seems to be getting much better results than others when it comes to dealing with soft water, so it is just a matter of time until the competitors make the adjustment.</p>
<p>When it comes to the nasty things that we find in the water, I find that the manufacturers just don’t seem to care. Maybe they do care, but they certainly haven’t done anything about it yet. I think they can do a much better job. To that end, I have been doing some research with manufacturers of purification systems that could be used in combination with the water ionizer systems. I don’t have anything definitive yet, but the prospects are promising. I believe that we should be able to combine the positive aspects of the purification properties of reverse osmosis systems with the healthy contributions made by water ionizers. There are some logistical problems that we are working on, but I think a cost effective solution is possible. I will keep you posted as things develop.</p>
<p>This is totally off topic, but I thought it was funny. I was talking to a lady the other day about her new water ionizer, and I asked how she liked it. She said that she enjoyed the taste of the water, and that she had more energy, but what really impressed her was that her cat wouldn’t drink regular water anymore. It reminded me of a message on a magnet that my Mom used to have on her fridge. The message said “The more I get to know people, the more I like my cat”.</p>
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