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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barry:

Thanks for your question.  It is a good one. 

When I visited Korea in April to meet engineers and scientists and visit production facilities, I came across hydrogen water machines.  These machines were about the same price as water ionizers and the Koreans were excited about their ability to raise the pH of water that was processed by the machines.  It turns out that the hydrogen machines produce similar pH levels as water ionizers, but don&#039;t produce the negative ORP.  After looking at a number of machines from different makers, it appeared to me that they were not an improvement to water ionizers. 

The authors that you have quoted are highly respected researchers in Asia.  The hydrogen water that they are talking about is in fact ionized water.  When you see all the bubbles in freshly made ionized water, what you are seeing is the hydrogen bubbles being released and rising to the surface. 

I assume the cost difference that you are referring is between hydrogen sticks and water ioinizers.  I have tested the inexpensive hydrogen sticks.  While they produce elevated pH levels for a short period of time, they also produce water that develops a nasty taste and odour after a few hours.  I&#039;m not a fan of the hydrogen sticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barry:</p>
<p>Thanks for your question.  It is a good one. </p>
<p>When I visited Korea in April to meet engineers and scientists and visit production facilities, I came across hydrogen water machines.  These machines were about the same price as water ionizers and the Koreans were excited about their ability to raise the pH of water that was processed by the machines.  It turns out that the hydrogen machines produce similar pH levels as water ionizers, but don&#8217;t produce the negative ORP.  After looking at a number of machines from different makers, it appeared to me that they were not an improvement to water ionizers. </p>
<p>The authors that you have quoted are highly respected researchers in Asia.  The hydrogen water that they are talking about is in fact ionized water.  When you see all the bubbles in freshly made ionized water, what you are seeing is the hydrogen bubbles being released and rising to the surface. </p>
<p>I assume the cost difference that you are referring is between hydrogen sticks and water ioinizers.  I have tested the inexpensive hydrogen sticks.  While they produce elevated pH levels for a short period of time, they also produce water that develops a nasty taste and odour after a few hours.  I&#8217;m not a fan of the hydrogen sticks.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hydrogen water  or alkalinized water?  from what I could find it appears that Hayashi says hydrogenized water is superior to alkalinized water for curing disease.  What is your opinion?  A doctor Kawamura says he has used hydrogen water to cure diabetes incuced gangrene, hepetitus c and atopic dermatitis.  That is the only research I have come up with.  The cost difference in a beginning level is so tremendous I am unsure whether to invest in a machine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hydrogen water  or alkalinized water?  from what I could find it appears that Hayashi says hydrogenized water is superior to alkalinized water for curing disease.  What is your opinion?  A doctor Kawamura says he has used hydrogen water to cure diabetes incuced gangrene, hepetitus c and atopic dermatitis.  That is the only research I have come up with.  The cost difference in a beginning level is so tremendous I am unsure whether to invest in a machine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dustin:

I checked out your website and I see you are a Kangen dealer.   Enagic dealers are proud of their products because they see how well they perform and how their products help so many people.  When someone comes along and says that a product that costs less than half the money is as good or better, it represents a big challenge to the Kangen story. 

Why don&#039;t you come to visit me in my lab in September when I return from my summer vacation, and we can test the units together.  I own and test about ten different brands.  Every one of the brands works.  There is no such thing as a best brand, but there are specific machines that perform better than others under different source water conditions.  

My testing shows that the $1,700 machine produces results that match or beat all of the more expensive machines.  However, that doesn&#039;t mean the more expensive machines are bad.  The lower cost machine has some great new features that I expect will be on most of the new models of the leading machines in the coming months.  I don&#039;t want to be like everyone else and bash the Enagic machines, but they have not been updated in many years and as such have fallen behind many different models that are now available on the market. 

I expect we will see lower prices across the board in the near future   People simply won&#039;t pay more than they have to unless they don&#039;t do their homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dustin:</p>
<p>I checked out your website and I see you are a Kangen dealer.   Enagic dealers are proud of their products because they see how well they perform and how their products help so many people.  When someone comes along and says that a product that costs less than half the money is as good or better, it represents a big challenge to the Kangen story. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you come to visit me in my lab in September when I return from my summer vacation, and we can test the units together.  I own and test about ten different brands.  Every one of the brands works.  There is no such thing as a best brand, but there are specific machines that perform better than others under different source water conditions.  </p>
<p>My testing shows that the $1,700 machine produces results that match or beat all of the more expensive machines.  However, that doesn&#8217;t mean the more expensive machines are bad.  The lower cost machine has some great new features that I expect will be on most of the new models of the leading machines in the coming months.  I don&#8217;t want to be like everyone else and bash the Enagic machines, but they have not been updated in many years and as such have fallen behind many different models that are now available on the market. </p>
<p>I expect we will see lower prices across the board in the near future   People simply won&#8217;t pay more than they have to unless they don&#8217;t do their homework.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prove to me that the best ionizer is 1700.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prove to me that the best ionizer is 1700.00.</p>
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