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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Linda:

Marvello is made by Toyo in Japan.  When Enagic got started, they bought the the Pure Port II brand from Toyo. 

Water ionizers all work, especially if you have good source water conditions where the water is slightly hard.  If you have been happy with your Marvello for 7 years, I wouldn&#039;t change anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linda:</p>
<p>Marvello is made by Toyo in Japan.  When Enagic got started, they bought the the Pure Port II brand from Toyo. </p>
<p>Water ionizers all work, especially if you have good source water conditions where the water is slightly hard.  If you have been happy with your Marvello for 7 years, I wouldn&#8217;t change anything.</p>
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		<title>By: linda neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am currently using the Mavello  alkaline water ionizer in Singapore for the last 7 years and a friend just recommended me Kangen water. I am now confused if I should upgrade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am currently using the Mavello  alkaline water ionizer in Singapore for the last 7 years and a friend just recommended me Kangen water. I am now confused if I should upgrade</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jay:

Thanks for stopping by.  I checked out your website.  It is great to see people that carry different products because every customer has unique requirements. 

I have never had the pleasure of speaking with Bob McCaulay but I have read his book.  He is highly regarded in the industry by those that care more about helping others than about profits.  Of course, the profit driven companies used their large marketing budgets to discredit Bob&#039;s machines as being inferior, which is a shame. 

Perhaps you and I can have a discussion about what you have written about ORP behind the scenes.  My opinion about ORP and its relevance has changed as my research continues.  

Keep up the great work at spreading the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jay:</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.  I checked out your website.  It is great to see people that carry different products because every customer has unique requirements. </p>
<p>I have never had the pleasure of speaking with Bob McCaulay but I have read his book.  He is highly regarded in the industry by those that care more about helping others than about profits.  Of course, the profit driven companies used their large marketing budgets to discredit Bob&#8217;s machines as being inferior, which is a shame. </p>
<p>Perhaps you and I can have a discussion about what you have written about ORP behind the scenes.  My opinion about ORP and its relevance has changed as my research continues.  </p>
<p>Keep up the great work at spreading the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Rob: Just came across your blog and read a lot of the comments.  I like your style.  I own two water ionizer website  stores and am amazed and dismayed  at all of the hype out there. 

Yes, we do need a good price war. I get several calls a week from folks  who have been to a Kangen meeting.  I ask them if they drew stick figures on the board. They laugh. If they are open minded and are willing to listen,  I end up saving them thousands of dollars.  

Generally I guide them into a mid range price ionizer like the Melody or Venus, in spite of the fact that we carry  higher priced units. 

Our family personally uses a 10 year old Jupiter Marvello  that we purchased from Bob McCauley when I think he was one of the few if not only Jupiter distributor at the time.  It   still pumps out 9.5 ph and -400ORP.  Not bad for a 1o year old machine. 

Thanks for all of the work you&#039;re doing in exposing and explaining the ins and outs  of the water ionizer business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Rob: Just came across your blog and read a lot of the comments.  I like your style.  I own two water ionizer website  stores and am amazed and dismayed  at all of the hype out there. </p>
<p>Yes, we do need a good price war. I get several calls a week from folks  who have been to a Kangen meeting.  I ask them if they drew stick figures on the board. They laugh. If they are open minded and are willing to listen,  I end up saving them thousands of dollars.  </p>
<p>Generally I guide them into a mid range price ionizer like the Melody or Venus, in spite of the fact that we carry  higher priced units. </p>
<p>Our family personally uses a 10 year old Jupiter Marvello  that we purchased from Bob McCauley when I think he was one of the few if not only Jupiter distributor at the time.  It   still pumps out 9.5 ph and -400ORP.  Not bad for a 1o year old machine. </p>
<p>Thanks for all of the work you&#8217;re doing in exposing and explaining the ins and outs  of the water ionizer business.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabe , 

   I have to comment on your reasoning and assumming people left the company you are with to chase the bigger money .. I can assure you that is not the reason by no stretch of the imagination for the majority of them , maybe some but not most. 

I dont know how long you have been with them but I am certain I never heard of you when I was there , and I was there dating back to 1997. When it was an amazing company and opportunity , up until about 2004 when it started to decline and then went into receivorship and was acquired by the company who owns it now .. 

I like some of your posts I think you are a credible guy and you truly are interested in helping others , so I applaud you for that .. 

But let&#039;s not assume that we know something we know little about . I personally know most everyone in that company who is anybody of significance and by that I mean the big money earners from waay back to present ... 

I only wanted to make it clear to you that just like every other MLM out there the companies all misinform their people in terms of why people leave and how great we are and you need to be loyal and then all the  leaders start praising the owners and the leaders like they are Gods , I have ben there and done that and learned a lot ... 

It would be refreshing to see MLM leaders and followers simply endorse the industry and stop bad mouthing each other and trying to rob each others distributors claiming thier better and not just the company you refer to but all of them including Enagic ..

 Then we have the bashing of Enagic by your company  didn&#039;t hurt Enagic but they sure did bad mouth them big time .Your leaader especially .... Those decpetive practices are the pits of the industry they work in .... I am not picking a fight here just seems you are misinformed  I am setting the record straight . Your company caused many people to go from living a healthy wealthy lifestyle to near poverty the way they mislead everyone to believe they were still doing well .. Just so you know that is why most everyone who moved to Enagic moved there and by the way December 2010 Enagic Distribuotors sold 5000 machines most of which would be SD 501s ..  They are growing and with the new incentive it is about to go off the charts .. 

 

    Best of luck to you with your company just beware of the snakes in the grass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe , </p>
<p>   I have to comment on your reasoning and assumming people left the company you are with to chase the bigger money .. I can assure you that is not the reason by no stretch of the imagination for the majority of them , maybe some but not most. </p>
<p>I dont know how long you have been with them but I am certain I never heard of you when I was there , and I was there dating back to 1997. When it was an amazing company and opportunity , up until about 2004 when it started to decline and then went into receivorship and was acquired by the company who owns it now .. </p>
<p>I like some of your posts I think you are a credible guy and you truly are interested in helping others , so I applaud you for that .. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not assume that we know something we know little about . I personally know most everyone in that company who is anybody of significance and by that I mean the big money earners from waay back to present &#8230; </p>
<p>I only wanted to make it clear to you that just like every other MLM out there the companies all misinform their people in terms of why people leave and how great we are and you need to be loyal and then all the  leaders start praising the owners and the leaders like they are Gods , I have ben there and done that and learned a lot &#8230; </p>
<p>It would be refreshing to see MLM leaders and followers simply endorse the industry and stop bad mouthing each other and trying to rob each others distributors claiming thier better and not just the company you refer to but all of them including Enagic ..</p>
<p> Then we have the bashing of Enagic by your company  didn&#8217;t hurt Enagic but they sure did bad mouth them big time .Your leaader especially &#8230;. Those decpetive practices are the pits of the industry they work in &#8230;. I am not picking a fight here just seems you are misinformed  I am setting the record straight . Your company caused many people to go from living a healthy wealthy lifestyle to near poverty the way they mislead everyone to believe they were still doing well .. Just so you know that is why most everyone who moved to Enagic moved there and by the way December 2010 Enagic Distribuotors sold 5000 machines most of which would be SD 501s ..  They are growing and with the new incentive it is about to go off the charts .. </p>
<p>    Best of luck to you with your company just beware of the snakes in the grass</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chantal:

We just had our Thanksgiving holiday here in Canada yesterday.  We have so much to be thankful for.  This year, the toast at dinner was to the fact that my son survived what could easily have been a fatal car accident.  While it is easy to point out the major events, everyday I&#039;m thankfull for people like yourself who care about helping others and do something about it.  

I use a lot of different water ionizers as I currently have ten different kinds of machines in my house.   

I have a Tyent Turbo under my kitchen sink that is located on an island.  I installed it a long time ago and have never had any need to change it.  

I&#039;m testing a convertible style water ionizer that I have plugged in on my back kitchen counter.  The machine is very flexible because you can hook it up to a tap like a regular water ionizer, or you can can simply pour water into the top of it like a coffee pot.  I like the machine becasue it works very well and the supplier intends to price the unit under $800, which is much lower than other water ionizers.  The only downside that I see to the unit is that it has an inferior filter that is slow, and doesn&#039;t remove the taste and odour of the cholorine to my satisfaction.  Therefore, I just took the filter out.  I have a pre-filter system under my sink which provides me with much better water than I would get from bottled water and at a fraction of the price.  

I&#039;m also testing a product called the Alkastream, which is hooked up to my kitchen tap with a diverter valve.  The Alkastream doesn&#039;t need to be plugged in as it is a hydrogen machine.  It works by running water through a sophisticated filter.  The filter removes fluoride, chlorine, lead, mercury, VOCs and a bunch of other nasty stuff.  The machine produces excellent pH and ORP values for drinking water which means it offers the most important property that people are looking for. When Mary and I were in Korea in April of this year, the manufacturers were all showing us their hydrogen machines and telling us that they were the new future of the water industry. .  We were skeptical about the machines but so far so good.  The best part is that the distributor from Australa tells me that the machine will sell for under $400.  Now we&#039;re talkin&#039;.  The only downside to the machine that I see is that it doesn&#039;t produce acidic water.  Apparently only 1 in 30 users of water ionizers use the acidic water, but Mary loves it for her skin.   

Down in my lab, I have the EOS Platinum, an Enagic SD501, a Tyent 7070, 2 types of Jupiters, and 2 types of Chansons. 

The bottom line is that all the machines work.  I would be happy with any one of the machines that I have.  Each machine has its own special features and its own drawbacks, but they all work.  The further along I get in my research, the more convinced I become that the industry really needs a good price war to drive prices down and flush out the marginal players.  

I intend to start doing video reviews of all of the machines this month.  The reviews will be focused on the features of the machines and how easy they are to hook up and use.  I won&#039;t be doing pH and ORP testing because the numbers always change as the source water conditions change.  In addition, the numbers are way too easy to manipulate for someone who knows what they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chantal:</p>
<p>We just had our Thanksgiving holiday here in Canada yesterday.  We have so much to be thankful for.  This year, the toast at dinner was to the fact that my son survived what could easily have been a fatal car accident.  While it is easy to point out the major events, everyday I&#8217;m thankfull for people like yourself who care about helping others and do something about it.  </p>
<p>I use a lot of different water ionizers as I currently have ten different kinds of machines in my house.   </p>
<p>I have a Tyent Turbo under my kitchen sink that is located on an island.  I installed it a long time ago and have never had any need to change it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m testing a convertible style water ionizer that I have plugged in on my back kitchen counter.  The machine is very flexible because you can hook it up to a tap like a regular water ionizer, or you can can simply pour water into the top of it like a coffee pot.  I like the machine becasue it works very well and the supplier intends to price the unit under $800, which is much lower than other water ionizers.  The only downside that I see to the unit is that it has an inferior filter that is slow, and doesn&#8217;t remove the taste and odour of the cholorine to my satisfaction.  Therefore, I just took the filter out.  I have a pre-filter system under my sink which provides me with much better water than I would get from bottled water and at a fraction of the price.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also testing a product called the Alkastream, which is hooked up to my kitchen tap with a diverter valve.  The Alkastream doesn&#8217;t need to be plugged in as it is a hydrogen machine.  It works by running water through a sophisticated filter.  The filter removes fluoride, chlorine, lead, mercury, VOCs and a bunch of other nasty stuff.  The machine produces excellent pH and ORP values for drinking water which means it offers the most important property that people are looking for. When Mary and I were in Korea in April of this year, the manufacturers were all showing us their hydrogen machines and telling us that they were the new future of the water industry. .  We were skeptical about the machines but so far so good.  The best part is that the distributor from Australa tells me that the machine will sell for under $400.  Now we&#8217;re talkin&#8217;.  The only downside to the machine that I see is that it doesn&#8217;t produce acidic water.  Apparently only 1 in 30 users of water ionizers use the acidic water, but Mary loves it for her skin.   </p>
<p>Down in my lab, I have the EOS Platinum, an Enagic SD501, a Tyent 7070, 2 types of Jupiters, and 2 types of Chansons. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that all the machines work.  I would be happy with any one of the machines that I have.  Each machine has its own special features and its own drawbacks, but they all work.  The further along I get in my research, the more convinced I become that the industry really needs a good price war to drive prices down and flush out the marginal players.  </p>
<p>I intend to start doing video reviews of all of the machines this month.  The reviews will be focused on the features of the machines and how easy they are to hook up and use.  I won&#8217;t be doing pH and ORP testing because the numbers always change as the source water conditions change.  In addition, the numbers are way too easy to manipulate for someone who knows what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: chantal julien</title>
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		<dc:creator>chantal julien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob. I own a water business so I am constantly informing myself on the simple benefits of water for health reasons and the best type of water for myself and  patrons to consume. I am a firm believer that the #1 health drink is water. And that the #1 cause for illness is dehydration.  However I am getting overwhelmed with amount of information on ionized water. I have an Enagic machine that I am quite fond of  and have had some profound personal health experiences. I am curious if you dont mind me asking, what water system you use? and why? I ask because I feel that you share the same passion for water as I do.Hence where your attention goes your energy flows. I am sure you are well educated.  My business name is that of my astrological sign...AQUARIUS... THE WATER BEARER.   I&#039;ve been delivering 5 gallon jugs for over 8 years. NO WATER, NO LIFE! KNOW WATER, KNOW LIFE! Thanks in advance, respectfully Chantal Julien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob. I own a water business so I am constantly informing myself on the simple benefits of water for health reasons and the best type of water for myself and  patrons to consume. I am a firm believer that the #1 health drink is water. And that the #1 cause for illness is dehydration.  However I am getting overwhelmed with amount of information on ionized water. I have an Enagic machine that I am quite fond of  and have had some profound personal health experiences. I am curious if you dont mind me asking, what water system you use? and why? I ask because I feel that you share the same passion for water as I do.Hence where your attention goes your energy flows. I am sure you are well educated.  My business name is that of my astrological sign&#8230;AQUARIUS&#8230; THE WATER BEARER.   I&#8217;ve been delivering 5 gallon jugs for over 8 years. NO WATER, NO LIFE! KNOW WATER, KNOW LIFE! Thanks in advance, respectfully Chantal Julien.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JV:

You must stop with your &quot;call me and I will share my secret with you&quot; approach.  I don&#039;t want to ban anyone from speaking their mind, but if your posts don&#039;t offer anything more than &quot;call me&quot;, I will not allow you to post.  

If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the calcium sediment that sometimes appears after water has been ionized, we can all have an open discussion from it.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JV:</p>
<p>You must stop with your &#8220;call me and I will share my secret with you&#8221; approach.  I don&#8217;t want to ban anyone from speaking their mind, but if your posts don&#8217;t offer anything more than &#8220;call me&#8221;, I will not allow you to post.  </p>
<p>If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the calcium sediment that sometimes appears after water has been ionized, we can all have an open discussion from it.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JV:

Once again, thanks for your comments.  Once again, I think it would be beneficial for everyone if you would share you information publicly instead of asking people to call you to learn your secrets.  Why not be open about sharing.  The call me to receive my secrets is a little creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JV:</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for your comments.  Once again, I think it would be beneficial for everyone if you would share you information publicly instead of asking people to call you to learn your secrets.  Why not be open about sharing.  The call me to receive my secrets is a little creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JV:

Thanks for your comments. 

I agree that more plates and more power are not an improvement.  When Mary and I visited Korea in April of this year, the engineers that we spoke to indicated that more than 7 plates and more than 300 watts of power is a complete waste. 

The engineers stated that healthy people should never drink water with an ORP lower that -400 and should try to stay in the -150 to -300 range.  If the ORP is lower than -400, it will actually act as an oxidant, like chemotherapy. Dr. Robert Young recommends the use of very low (-800) ORP water as part of his suggested protocol for cancer treatment.  

The engineers recommended that machines should only produce the minimum amount of power needed to create the desired level of pH and ORP.  Excess use of power will degrade the platinum coating on the plates that are there to protect the plates from titanium colloids. 

Why is it that you want people to contact so that you can let them know your secrets.  I have dedicated my life to educating others about the water and the machines.  I do so for free.  This blog is about sharing information so that people can learn.  I&#039;m sure that readers would appreciate anyh knowledge that you care to share and debate the merits of your information.  This blog is being read by a lot of people now and I expect that if you share, you would be rewarded with business that you would probably never have received without sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JV:</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. </p>
<p>I agree that more plates and more power are not an improvement.  When Mary and I visited Korea in April of this year, the engineers that we spoke to indicated that more than 7 plates and more than 300 watts of power is a complete waste. </p>
<p>The engineers stated that healthy people should never drink water with an ORP lower that -400 and should try to stay in the -150 to -300 range.  If the ORP is lower than -400, it will actually act as an oxidant, like chemotherapy. Dr. Robert Young recommends the use of very low (-800) ORP water as part of his suggested protocol for cancer treatment.  </p>
<p>The engineers recommended that machines should only produce the minimum amount of power needed to create the desired level of pH and ORP.  Excess use of power will degrade the platinum coating on the plates that are there to protect the plates from titanium colloids. </p>
<p>Why is it that you want people to contact so that you can let them know your secrets.  I have dedicated my life to educating others about the water and the machines.  I do so for free.  This blog is about sharing information so that people can learn.  I&#8217;m sure that readers would appreciate anyh knowledge that you care to share and debate the merits of your information.  This blog is being read by a lot of people now and I expect that if you share, you would be rewarded with business that you would probably never have received without sharing.</p>
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