The Japanese videos are about the benefits of ionized water, not specifically about Enagic water. Please see Ian Hamilton’s comment.

The other water ionizer companies are not simply marketing companies. Some are agents for manufacturers while others manufacture the products themselves. Enagic in the USA and other countries are agents for the manufacturer. In fact, Enagic machines were originally made by Toyo. To be more specific, the Enagic SD501 was originally created as the PURE PORT II and it was given a cosmetic face lift when Enagic purchased the rights to the machine and started selling them in 2004. You may not be too happy to learn that the price of the PURE PORT II was under $1,000 before Enagic performed its magic.

It is a well known fact that Enagic paid the association of Japanese medical doctors for their endorsement. The practice is not uncommon. Do you actually think that 6,500 medical doctors in Japan have tested and sell or endorse the Kangen machine? I would love to see proof of that.

I must be one of the people that you feel badly about. I bought one of what you would call the “cheap imitations”. In fact, I bought 450 of them before I retired…and sold them. In addition, my wife has bought a much larger number of various brands of machines in her company….and sold them….most at or near her cost in order to help cancer patients who can’t afford the more expensive machines. To the best of my recollection, only 3 machines have ever been returned during the risk free trial periods, none of which had to do with the performance of the machines.

It has been almost 3 1/2 years since I started selling the Tyent machines. They do last, and so do the machines from the other companies. Tyent now offers a lifetime warranty on parts and labor, and so do the other companies.

My bubble is still fully intact…and living large in technicolor

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That is a total false statement you just made. I have a DVD in my hand this second. It is from Japan. The entire DVD is about Kangen water. They speak only Japanese but there are subtitles on it. In the DVD is shows how they use the acid water for a patient with a completely black foot and part of his ankle. Instead of amputating it like they would in the States, they used the Acid water to completely heal his foot. It was a progressive video so it shows start to finish. In the end, the man only loses a very tiny part of the tip of one toe. The patients are also drinking the alkaline water. Not only does it show it, but they also state how much the patients are to drink every day. The patients in the hospital are drinking the Kangen water! So are the elderly in Old Folks Homes. They are very honorable people and really take care of their elderly.
They show the acid water being used on bed sores the size of softballs and how it healed them. There is also news clips on here in Japanese, toting the wonders of this water.
I don’t know what the DVD in Japanese is called because it’s all in Japanese, but there is another English title over it called “International Health & Wellness Special Report. I certainly hope people can look and find this DVD. I am not giving mine up…but I do share it with a lot of people that come over here.
I love the Kangen water and it really and truly works wonders.
Don’t be fooled. All the other ionizer companies are just marketing companies. Research their certificates and read the wording then look at Enagics. You can actually look the certificate numbers up but make sure you read why they were issued and what for. Don ‘t be fooled by them people…be smarter than that. They don’t have any certificates like the WQA or ISO certification. Read the words carefully, and you will truly see how they manipulate it to make it seem as if they are comparable to Enagics. There is none. 6500 doctors….actually…over 6500 doctors in Japan have endorsed this medical device. Japan is number one for health and longevity in the world for a reason. I feel badly for the people who by the cheap imitations. They won’t last. Buyer beware..that’s for sure.
So Rob, I’m sorry buddy to burst your bubble. But there are actual videos that prove you wrong.

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Welcome to the wacky world of the water ionization industry. The machines are all great. I wish I could say the same about the companies that offer them.

I think that if you invest a little more time into investigating the various companies in the industry, you will discover that there are other brands that you might prefer to represent. I would never work with the owner of Life Ionizers myself for several reasons.

However, it doesn’t matter what I think. Buying or selling water ionizers is a personal choice and you should go with your instincts once you have done your homework. Starting a business is a lot more involved than buying a machine for your own personal use. If you want to talk privately about this, I would be happy to share my thoughts if you leave me an email with your telephone number and a convenient time to call. My email address is contact@waterfyi.com

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I have talked to Lower. Others that I know have talked to Lower. He admits that the water probably works but is unwilling to attending testing sessions at his convenience.

There is lots of medical research about alkaline water if you choose to search for it. At the moment, there is a big study underway at the University of Washington that should add “American” credibility.

My site may be my “gibberish” to you, but I personally know hundreds of people besides myself that have been helped by the water. A few of those people have been saved from terminal cancer diagnoses.

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In response to your original post, 1)where is the proof that big pharma is trying to debunk alkalized water?
They don’t need to debunk anything, only convince people to take their drugs. 2) Dr lower’s website is most likely ranked high because it is one of the only ones that offers an opposing view to all the water hype out there.
3)You can not discredit someone for not attending a demonstration. 4)So where is all the medical research in support of alkalized water? If it is what people say it is and people truly have good intentions selling all these machines why have they not done the research? How about a pilot study? Where are the doctors and researchers who support its use? Any links would be helpful. 5) you say thousands of people may have been tricked by his gibberish, come on! How about all the people that were tricked into buying a water machine based on some wild claims. There are many people out there that have these machines and it did not help them. I respect your intentions in trying to get the word out about the benefits of water but until there is good clinical evidence for its use all the talk on your website is just gibberish.

John

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I recommend that anyone who uses a Reverse Osmosis system should purchase a non-electric/antioxidant filter. The reason for my recommendation is that RO systems remove the minerals from the water and make the water acidic. Electric water ionizers require the source water to have minerals in order to work, which means that RO systems work against electric water ionizers.

Antioxidant filters introduce minerals to the water, which allows them to work well with RO systems.

Anyone that has an RO system and an electric water ionizer can introduce minerals into the water supply after the RO system and before the electric water ionizer. This setup is costly and usually doesn’t work as well as installing a much more affordable antioxidant filter.

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Thanks for the great job you are doing.
As you said, all ionizers really works. Does it more benificial if I use purified water that comes out from reverse osmosis and pass through UV system with low TDS in it?

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I haven’t hear of the Vitalizer plus. I checked out their website and found it interesting.

I’m not convinced of the claims behind the vortex theory. The hypothesis has been around a long time and has never gained any traction in the scientific community or even with strong anecdotal support. I’m surprised the company leads off their sales pitch with the vortex card.

I would really like to see the scientific evidence or demonstrations of the evidence of micro clustering/hexagonal water (hello Dr. Hayashi). I’m not saying microclustering doesn’t exist, but I find it odd that it is talked about so much in the world of water ionizer sales and yet nobody provides any evidence.

I do support their mineralization method of creating ionization.

The company doesn’t address contaminants.

I would have to say that the price of $497 seems high to me based upon what else is out there in the market place. Perhaps I might change my mind if I actually tested the machine, but my wife has made me promise not to buy any more machines! If you work with the company, send me a machine and I will test it and send it back to you.

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