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9 Mar 2010
I have been watching with great interest the ongoing development of the strategy by the pharmaceutical industry to cast doubt of the benefits of an alkaline diet and alkaline water.
What are they afraid of? Do you think that they might be concerned that if we eat properly and hydrate adequately, the need for pharmaceutical drugs will plummet like they did in Japan before the water ionizer industry was forced to shut down advertising for two years?
This article addresses a truly pathetic internet effort to discredit alkaline water. The face of website in question is Dr. Stephen Lower. At one time in his career, this man was a legitimate professor of chemistry at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, but it has been 11 years since he was terminated from his position. While a professor is allowed to maintain a “Dr” designation for life, this man has clearly lost all sense of the basics of scientific research. His internet site, which is obviously backed by someone with a strong financial interest in seeing the awareness of the benefits of alkaline water suppressed, is based upon Lower’s (or the pharma industry’s) self-serving hypothesis that water can’t be ionized and that water ionizers are therefore a scam.
How does his site, which doesn’t sell anything (therefore no revenues) constantly maintain the top ranking for the hotly contested keywords of alkaline water and water ionizers? Riddle me that!
Lower’s website offers a couple of chemistry equations, and then he states that pure water can’t be ionized. His statement is true, but irrelevant, because there is no such thing as pure water in nature. The only pure water in the world is created through distillation. His site offers no scientific basis whatsoever, despite claiming that water ionizers don’t work based upon scientific fact. All legitimate scientific papers begin with a hypothesis, describe and perform accepted testing procedures and protocols in detail to insure unbiased data, generate and analyse data, and finally, discuss the implications of the study. Lower refuses to even test the water or the machines that produce the water, and yet he triumphantly claims that ionized water is a hoax. Shame on him!
When a Vancouver distributor for one of the ionizer companies contacted the ex-professor to invite him to a demonstration to test the results of the ionization process, the ex-professor declined the invitation. The distributor then offered to bring a machine to the ex-professor’s home, or to any lab of his choosing for a demonstration. The distributor’s goal was to provide unequivocal evidence that the alkaline water ionizing machine does change the pH and ORP of water when the water is passed through the simple process of electrolysis. The ex-professor declined the offer. The distributor then offered to have the water tested any scientific testing facility in the area, and have Dr. Lower choose the technicians and the testing equipment. The process wouldn’t cost the ex-profession anything, but he refused to take part in scientific testing.
Why would somebody who claims to be an expert on a subject and publishes their beliefs, refuse to attend demonstrations that clearly invalidate his/her claims?
In a more recent email sent by Dr. Lower to a Doctor of Natural Medicine, Dr. Lower wrote: “ I do not test processes or devices, but merely assess the scientific credibility of the explanations given for how they work”. He also stated: “I am prepared to admit the possibility that some of the dubious products I mention might be effective under the right conditions”. So, we know he won’t test his theories, and he admits that there may be merit to the fact that ionized water may work, but it doesn’t suit his needs to put those statements on his website that sits at the top of the Google search engine for the subject.
Dr. Lower publicly states on his personal website that he can do without: God, cats, Microsoft Windows, sports, most tv and popular culture etc etc etc. Probing a little further into his website, we find a list of favourite websites, which includes the blasphemous Jesus Dressup where you can dress up Jesus as a devil or in other outfits (see http://www.jesusdressup.com/ ) and the Periodic Table of Comic Books (see http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/index.html ) .
You may be wondering why I’m picking on a seemingly harmless 77 year old guy, who is clearly unable or unwilling to assess alkaline water or water ionizers. If it were all harmless fun, we could just have a good laugh. However, I have spoken to numerous people who have chosen to discontinue their investigation of the benefits of alkaline water because of their belief that the opinion of this charlatan has value. If I have personally spoken to dozens of people who have been influencecd by his website, imagine how many thousands of victims he has tricked with his gibberish. It disturbs me that someone like Lower can destroy the legitimate efforts of people who are attempting to learn about a natural way to improve their health.
It is hard to believe that it can get worse, but it does. A recent search of “alkaline water” on Wikipedia turned up the following statement: “However, drinking ionized water would not be expected to alter the body’s pH, and there is no evidence of any claims made by manufacturers that drinking ionized water will have a noticeable effect on the body.[2]” . Guess where the statement came from? None other that our infamous Dr. Lower (see “Lower, S. “”Ionized” and alkaline water: Snake oil on tap”). I’m not kidding! This charlatan and his gimmicky website are quoted as a source for alkaline water on Wikipedia.
Enough is enough! Surely the pharmaceutical industry can come up with something better than this farce.
It is time to take off the gloves and go after the people who pretend to know what they are talking about when it comes to ionized water. I have been made aware of articles from a nutritionist from a famous medical institition and a couple of MDs in the States that claim that ionized water can’t and won’t work. They haven’t tested the water and they have no research or ancedotal evidence to support their claims.
Anyone that wants to help me expose unsupported claims from professionals that are just sounding off for notoriety or for hidden profit are encouraged to contact me. This could get interesting!
As always, it must be stated that the contents of this article are the opinions of the author and are not intended to be offered as medical advice. Always consult with your health care provider (preferably a Naturopathic Doctor) for health issues.
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My name is Rob Thomas. I’m 53 years old, retired, and I live in a small town near Toronto, Canada
15 Responses to Exposing the Quack Behind the Alkaline Water Quackwatchers
Anonymous
March 15th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Interesting article. There are numerous testimonials from people who have transformed their health because of alkaline water. Water ionizers are recognized as a medical device in Japan. Those who have questions about how well ionized water works haven’t tried it yet themselves.
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rob Reply:
March 17th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Thanks for the comments. I have personally spoken to hundreds of people that have had their lives improved by drinking ionized water. Now that I have separated myself from the industry, I will start posting the testimonials.
In regards to ionizers being recognized as a medical device in Japan, that is true. However, the recognition is for acid water only, for use as a disinfectent.
I stripped out the self-promotional aspects of your post. If you want to advertise, you are encouraged to do so to spread the word….just not here! If I can’t make any money doing this, nobody else can either.
Rob
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Erik
March 27th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Rob,
I appreciate your integrity it is evident that you understand how benifits of truth over shadow personal gain, Thankyou. However I still wonder how irrelevent the good Dr. Lower’s points are. What makes his scientific explanations irrelevent. I understand the concept of pure water and it being unable to produce ionized water and agree that his point on this matter is irrelevent because our water is not pure, but how is it the body accepts this reduced water exactly? I am hopeful that we are evolving our sciences to include the proof that alternate medicine is our only alternative. I understand you may not have equations but any further explanation would inspire our belief in this seemingly amazing advancement. Thankyou
-Erik
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rob Reply:
April 7th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Hi Eric:
I’m not a scientist, but I have experienced the benefits of the water myself, and I have spoken to hundreds of people that have benefitted from the water. I will be writing a article in the near future about how and why I believe the water works so well. I have read the ex-professor’s theories, I have read Dr. Mirkin’s theories. Neither of these gentlemen have ever tried or tested the water.
Ionized water and alcohol are two of only a very limited number of fluids that pass directly through the stomach. While regular tap water or bottled water take approximately three hours to pass through the stomache, ionized water passes in a few minutes. How can I be sure of this? Try this simple test. Drink three 16 ounce glasses of tap or bottled water (48 ounces) in two minutes and take note of how you feel afterwards. You will feel bloated and uncomfortable for a significant period of time. The next day, drink 48 ounces of ionized water in two minutes. Within minutes, you will note that you don’t feel anything at all other than you might find yourself energized.
I will address what I believe to be the truth about how and why ionized water is so effective for so many people in an upcoming article. Remember, everyone that comments on the water, including the so called experts, are only guessing as science doesn’t have an answer to water yet.
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desiree
April 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Rob,
Could you please help me! I am currently doing reasearch to buy a water ionizer as I have heard many great things about alkaline/ionized water. I was thrown for a loop when I discovered a website that spoke about the hydrogen rich water stick by Dr. H. Hayashi and I also found an article about the Aqua Liv System. I was most impressed w/ the fact the you can drink this hydrogen rich water anywhere you go and get the full benefits rather than losing some of the effects of the alkaline water when you have to bottle-on-the-go. As far as the Aqua Liv System it would appear a good buy as the entire home gets the benefits of its water vs just one tap. I may have not done enough homework, but do you think I’m going to be spending money on a scam or do you think they are the real deal?
thanks….des
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rob Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Hi Desiree:
I must have missed your comment when I was in Korea last week. I went to meet with engineers and quality assurance people, and to inspect factories. I wanted to learn from the people that are actually making the machines, as I have heard enough from the domestic marketing people.
In regards to the hydrogen sticks, I have used one a number of times. They sticks contain minerals which do increase the pH to about 8.5 and reduce the ORP to around zero (plus or minus). I think the sticks have a worthwhile function as they can be used in an emergency, or to freshen up ionized water that has been sitting for awhile. However, the sticks don’t actually ionize the water or create micro clusters and should never be substituted for a real water ionizer.
I had never heard of the Aqua Liv system, so I just checked out their website. They sell a filter system, worth about $250 and they claim their vortex system creates hexagonal water. The site provides virtually nothing in terms of statistics about performance. I don’t know enough about the technology to provide a proper review. I’m willing to learn, but in the meantime, I would go for proven technology from a well established company that can offer great results for less money. Water ionizers have a 30 year track record in Asia, and they have helped hundreds of people that I have spoken with. If you do purchase a system, I would like to hear your comments. If the company sends me a unit, I will test it and publish my unbiased opinion.
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Richard Anderson
April 24th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Thanks Rob for posting this. If you can believe it, I am a RN working in surgery. And when I told a couple of the Dr’s about this water, the Snake Oil guy appeared on one of our bulletin boards.
Of course the doctors all think they have all the answers. Obviously, for many people, they do not.
I am a new Enagic distributor, and am really excited about how tyhe water has changed my life, and also those with whom I have shared this water.
Let me know if you need any help.
Sincerely, Richard Anderson RN San Diego
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rob Reply:
April 24th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Hi Richard:
Great to hear that you are excited about the water and how it has made a positive impact in your life and the lives of others. I’m not a big fan of the MLM aspect of Enagic, but as long as you are spreading the word about the water, I grateful for your efforts.
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Daniel
May 14th, 2010 at 5:25 am
Hey Rob.
Great to see someone started out a blog regarding this subject.
About Dr Lower, I wonder if you have seen the replies which were answered to his most criticized statmements? I have seen them posted on two different pages and it is a pleasant read
I Live in Sweden and have started to drink this water since aug ‘09 and have never had a cold or allergies since then. At first even I was sceptic of cource when I first heard about it
Not until a few months later I began to read a bunch of articles regarding why this water works… and I must say it is total logical.
I have started a topic in a well visited forum in my country asking how much they know about ionized water in general. And it is terrifying to know how little knowledge they hold about water and its structures and most are even strongly for distilled water to be the purest and healthiest water to drink!?! That is sooooo 70s when pure water was popular, but now it is 2010 and it is still being sold world wide!
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rob Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Hi Daniel:
Welcome to the blog. Nice to see a response from Sweden, which I’m told is a beautiful country.
The water is slowly gaining a foothold in Europe, just like it is in North America.
I have had enough of Stephen Lower. Myself and others have called him out a number of times and he has admitted that he won’t try the water or test it, but he does admit that it probably works. So much for being a scientist.
Distilled water has its place, just not for drinking unless there is no alternative such as in a disaster situation. When raw sewage is being dumped into drinking water supplies, distilled water will save your life.
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Herbert Martensy
May 24th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Learn more about Kangen Water and the Alkaline Diet.
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rob Reply:
May 24th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Hi Herbert:
Enjoy the free advertising. You may have a tough time selling water ionizers for $3,980 to people who read this blog, so this might not be the best place to advertise. However, free is free.
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Herbert Martensy @ Kangen Water
May 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Hi Rob, it is not so much advertising as it is providing readers with a factual resource related to Kangen Water. Thanks.
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Daniel
July 17th, 2010 at 4:18 am
Hello again Rob!
Hehe, the funniset thing happend as when I saw my earlier comment in here also have been posted on another vendor site selling ionized water.
Now to my main purpose… you should really create a new category something called “Debunkers Debunked” and list all the sites you come across which debunks ionized alkaline water. I have found a few more which have a quite convincing text which may very well confuse those who are new to this water. As you already know.
But there is one study I found which I have not found any real comments on, is the study on newborn rats given ionized alkaline water during 15 days which may give them a marked myocardiac necrosis and fibrosis than the group drinking tap water. The study says it is caused by a degeneration of myosin (a needed protein) that affects the contraction of heart muscle. And also showed a leakage of myocardinac creatine kinase (an enzyme in muscle, brain and other tissues).
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/ Can tell you more about these medical terms .
This study was written 1998 on pubmed by Toshi Watanabes
P.S
Is it not possible to comment your comment on my first comment, instead of posting a new comment to comment your comment? :p
What I mean is, the reply link does not work for me, or is it only for you (admin) to use?
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rob Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Hi Daniel:
Nice to see you back on the blog.
The battle against the quackwatch/debunkers will never end, but I will keep doing what I do. I have been working on an a new article about the validity of water ionizers which should be up on the blog soon.
I don’t have a comment on the small study on newborn rats. What I do know is that ionized water has been around for 30 years and it has helped millions of people. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a claim made against the water legitimate or otherwise. Now there is a thought for the debunkers and their pharma backers….just launch a lawsuit. I wouldn’t put it past them.
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