Thanks for the kind words.

I was excited to read your personal testimonial about the positive effects of the water in regards to your Type I Diabetes. This is great news because I was not aware that ionized water was so effective with Type I Diabetes. It is widely documented that the water is very effective with Type II Diabetes, but it is a very different disease. Anything that results in positive effects and/or reduced medications is “all good” in my book.

I try to remain unbiased. It is easy to do so when it comes to electric water ionizers because they all work well. I find it impossible to remain unbiased when it comes to comparing electric water ionizers versus antioxidant filters because of the huge price difference between products that both offer the same great health benefits. When you add in the ability of the antioxidant filters to remove fluoride and chloramines and many other contaminants from the water, the choice is a slam dunk.

I acknowledge the useful aspect of acidic water produced by electric water ionizers, and I think that there will always be a place for them. However, it seems most people (myself included) have a much greater need for the health benefits of the drinking water, and the price difference is just too substantial to ignore.

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It is good to hear from a primary care physician. This blog could use more comments, especially from people in the field of medicine and heath care.

Between yourself and Stan, you guys are posting lots of comments, which is to the benefit of all readers, and certainly appreciated by me.

I wish you guys would stop promoting your products, but this forum is for everyone, so go ahead and do what you have to do. Finding a physician who is familiar with the water is a real gift, so I imagine people will be far more interested in dealing with you if you provide useful information and leave the rah rah stuff to others.

In regards to flat or slotted plates, you and I will have to disagree. During my recent visit to Korea, I met with the engineer that builds most of the plates for water ionizers in Korea. He explained to me in very simple terms how and why slotted plates are superior. Just to be fair, he makes and sells both types of plates. In terms of the “heating” issue, I don’t think it is an issue at all. The plates themselves are not subjected to an significant amount of heat and the plates have room temperature water running across them the entire time that they are in operation. My research indicates that heat is not an issue. Besides, most companies are offering a 5 year up to a lifetime warranty on the plates.

I would never make a claim that water ionizers cure all cancer. However, I have spoken to many people with cancer that have gone into remission or have eliminated tumours completely with the water. In our society, anyone in the health industry lives in fear of the reprecussions from the FDA or Health Canada for making any type of claim. I left my business to write this blog so that I could tell the truth. Blogging is costing me a great deal of money as I could be selling water ionizers instead like everyone else. If I’m giving up my right to earn an income, I’m sure as heck going to exercise my right to free speech and tell the truth.

Water is only part of the solution when dealing with cancer or any other disease, and I always tell people that. An alkaline diet is equally or perhaps more important than water (nobody knows for sure which is more important). Rest, exercise, and reducing stress also play a role. Based upon my discussions with cancer patients (and I talk to alot of cancer patients), I think attitude also plays a significant role.

Cancer patients are at the most vulnerable stage of their lives when their physician first say teh “C” word. In fact, a common theme that I hear among cancer patients is that despite the fact that they are surrounded by loved ones who mean well, they always feel “alone”. Therefore, when people should be researching and acting rationally because their next decisions may be the most important decisions they will ever make, they are often frightened into a partial mental paralysis. While I have a great deal of respect for physicians, the fact is that lack of new and effective treatments offered by the medical community for cancer are appalling. People who get cancer should immediately start to research what cancer is, how effective specific treatments are for their form of cancer, and they should also be looking at alternatives. A great place to start is Suzanne Sonmers book “KNOCKOUT” where she interviews various physicians that are having excellent success in curing cancer.

I agree 100% with your statements about balance and the fact that more is not necessarily better. The distributors of water ionizers in the USA seem determined to offer more and more and more in terms of plates and power. These features typically are not adding anything to the health equation, but they sure do make for fancy advertising and higher prices.

It is easy to pick on Robert Young, as he sure sells a lot of products. However, he does good work and he is helping people. As such, I applaud his scientific and research efforts.

Once again, thanks for your efforts. We need more people like you to step forward and offer opinions. Hopefully you won’t be deterred by the fact that I don’t agree with everything you say. How would anyone learn if we don’t explore ideas and concepts and debate the merits and pitfalls of both sides.

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Thanks for your thoughts. Of course, water is not the only solution. In fact, water is only part of the solution.

I don’t speak for all men who have prostate cancer. I simply report my finding from the research that I do. Everyone that I speak to about the water also gets to hear me tell them that the water is just part of the greater plan. I encourage everyone to convert to an alkaline diet, and especially those that are suffering form one form of disease or another.

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Dr. Kennedy from Hydroanalytics has elsewhere replied to you but there is more to add. What you say could easily lead every man who has prostate cancer to think that drinking alkaline water will reliably lead to a remission. Yes, alkalinity is one factor, but not the only one, in treating cancer; and a raw diet with copious amounts of vegetable juice is doubtless beneficial.

If you delve further into this, radical alkaline therapies, like the use of cesium, will, as a matter of fact, not help every man who has prostate cancer. Hydroanalytics offers the IE-900 water ionizer and haw been bringing in the top units only from Japan since 1994. However, our policy is not to exaggerate or be excessively enthusiastic about this one method of self-care. It’s easy to get carried away or be overly fervent when we find something good. It is likewise important to keep perspective so as not to inadvertently misinform people. That can easily happen.

Some people may totally focus on anti-inflammation, or anti-parasitic, or alkaline treatments but one perspective alone does not cover all bases. For example, oxidative therapies like IV Vitamin C or the use of artemisinin can be extraordinarily helpful for certain types of cancers. Ionized alkaline water, yes, we earnestly believe in it as part of a total heath support plan.

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The best Japanese ionizers like the Hydroanalytics IE-900 and the Enagic units use precisely calibrated flat electrodes. Water must likewise move evenly across a flat electrode in a perfectly even laminar flow. As soon as water flows unevenly, there is automatically uneven heat distribution across the electrode surface. The always uneven surface of mesh electrodes automatically creates an uneven water flow. This creates uneven heat distribution. This means that one part of the electrode must wear our faster than another part. This always reduces the useful life of the electrode. It signifies inferior manufacturing processes compared with the best Japanese technology. This is a basic and indisputable engineering principle: slotted or mesh electrodes always wear out faster. If you want to address this at an engineering level, you can objectively address how uneven heat distribution will not effect electrode wear since slotted or waffle electrodes all have uneven heat distribution. IN terms of eng9ineering, uneven heat distribution has to wear out one part of the electrode faster than other parts/.

In Japan, ionized alkaline water of itself is not considered a cancer cure or remission therapy. Please be very careful about these statement because people with cancer are obviously in a vulnerable position. On a lesser but related note, the notion of drinking >10.0 pH water is opposed by researchers in Japan.

Both price and quality are doubtless to be considered. Our Japanese units cost 1/3 the price of the Enagic units and are made by the same brain trust that made the Enagic ionizers.

Allow me to address your statement: “When you say it is misleading to tell people that drinking ionized water can put cancer into remission without rigorously changing your diet, what do you base your evidence upon?” The shoe is truly on the other foot here. Here is what I mean. If you changed your statement to: “When you say it is misleading to tell people that eating chocolate pudding will raise their IQ, what do you base your evidence upon?” The burden of evidence is upon the person making the claim, not the other way around. It’s the person who states that chocolate pudding will raise IQ who needs to show evidence. The same applies here to our discussion.

It would be positively wonderful if we could have 20 people anecdotally state that their cancer was put into remission by drinking ionized alkaline Kangen water. On other hand, sure, it is possible that people who have unhealthy habits can gain great benefit from drinking alkaline ionized water or drinking fresh vegetable juice. Changing diet is a great key although almost everyone daily struggles to change habits as a fact of human nature.

As for Dr. Young or anyone, it’s a good idea to simply think for oneself. Where he recommends greater than 10.0 ph water for obese people, it is a fact that this is not recommended by Japanese doctors and is in fact opposed based on animal studies where there were some abnormal changes in blood tests for animals drinking high pH water.
This site touches upon recommended pH:
http://home.earthlink.net/~microwater/hydroanalytics/id4.html

pH is a logarithm which, as you may know, means every number is ten times higher than the preceding number. 8.0 pH is ten times higher than 7.0 pH and 9.0 pH is ten times higher than 8.0 pH. Thus, 9.0 pH is 100 times higher than 7.0 pH. a 10.0 ph is 1,000 times higher than a neutral 7.0 pH and an 11.0 pH is 10,000 times higher than 7.0 pH water. There are absolutely no studies or anecdotal research indicating, as Dr. Young inaccurately recommends, that it is a good idea to drink 10.0 pH or 11.0 pH water.

As a primary care physician, “Do no harm” is a watchword. pH and ORP are all about balance. We tend to think more is better as if we could squeeze some extra immortality into our body by adding more oxygen. However, adding more oxygen can result in creating more oxidants or free radicals. The redox balance between oxidants and antioxidants is a health key. More is better does not apply in this context.

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You have signed your name as Dr. Kennedy. I would be interested to learn your background, as we can use all the help we can get around here. Are you a physician or a Naturopathic Doctor, or some of form of Doctor. I believe that all types of doctors have something to add.

You have made a number of points besides directing people to your website that sells water ionizers (which is OK).

When you say it is misleading to tell people that drinking ionized water can put cancer into remission without rigourously changing your diet, what do you base your evidence upon. I tell everyone I speak to that drinking alkaline ionized water is an important part of the puzzle that includes an alkaline diet, getting adequate exercise and rest, and reducing stress. However, I personally know and have talked to a number of people that have “cured” their cancer or put their cancer into remission soley by drinking alkaline ionized water.

I can confirm your statement that the older researchers in Korea and Japan do believe that healthy people should drink water with a pH in the range of 8.5 and 9.5, and I agree. However, there are always exceptions. I know a number of Olympic athletes in Canada that drink ionized water and they drink the water with a pH of 10.0 or even higher with no problem. My body doesn’t like water with a pH at very high levels, but my body can’t begin to be compared with the “machines” that our Olympians build and nuture. I also know several older people with more precarious health conditions that drink water that has a pH under 8.5. They find that stronger water gives them diarrhea and headaches, which are signes of detoxing. The good news when it comes to drinking the ideal pH level for your body is that your body will tell you what works by responding in a negative way to levels that are too strong.

I appreciate all the work and effort that Dr. Young puts into his research about alkaline diets and water. I find that Dr. Young sells a lot of products, so I stick to his research. Dr. Young sold Jupiter machines for awhile, and now he is backing Chanson. I have been told he will be selling other types of water ionizers as well in the future, which simply confirms that all water ionizers work.

I disagree with your statement about the plates in your machine being superior to other plates. I met spent a day with a gentleman in Korea who has spent 25 years in the water ionizer business. His company makes the ionizer plates for many different companies of all different shapes and sizes. I understand that everyone is trying to promote “their” brand, but the research that I have done indicates that the slotted plates are best. After saying that, I don’t think that the thickness or the shape of the plates makes a huge difference. The only thing that bigger, or more, or slotted plates does is allow the water to be in contact with the plates for a slightly longer period of time,which enables additional time for ionization. Anyone can achieve the same results, or better results for that matter by simply slowing down the water flow across the plates.

I absolutely agree with you that it is tough changing your a raw diet and I also agree that it is worth it. I also agree that the best way to change your diet is to do it slowly but surely.

We are definitely on the same page when it comes to diet and water ionizers. I enjoy when well informed people like yourself present their ideas whether I agree with them or not. We learn from sharing ideas and debating the merits of the differences of opinion.

My perspective about which unit to purchase is different from yours, and prettu much anyone else that posts about a specific brand. The main difference is that I believe that they all work, and my goal is to help drive the price of water ionizers down to a level that they are affordable to more people. My perspective doesn’t make me very popular with the sellers of water ioinzers these days. Hopefully the sellers will see the logic of lower prices as sales increase due to the fact that more and more people will be able to afford these incredible machines.

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